November 1st, 2006

Turtles All the Way Down

Clifford Geertz passed away this week. An innovative and influential anthropologist, Geertz’s clear, engaging prose advanced what he called “interpretive anthropology” in the early 70s — taking a semiotic or hermeneutic approach, reading/writing culture as text, thickly describing what he called, after Weber, “webs of signficance” and interpreting them in search of meaning.

It’s quite impossible to talk about L20C anthropology or ethnography (and for me, quite hard to conceptualize culture) without thinking of Geertz. His illuminating perspectives will be sorely missed, but we rest assured that we’ll be reading along with him for some time yet.

We just read Geertz’s “Thick Description” (1973) in class a couple weeks ago. In the essay, he advocates, among other things, “cutting the culture concept down to size, therefore actually insuring its continued importance” (4). Well before anthropology’s “crisis of representation” in the late 80s, Geertz noted that we may as well embrace our role as interpreters and give up on false notions about objective observation and representation, arguing that “what we call our data are really our own constructions of other people’s constructions of what they and their compatriots are up to” (9). And yet, he was careful to warn that “Nothing will discredit a semiotic approach to culture more quickly than allowing it to drift into a combination of intuitionism and alchemy, no matter how elegantly the intuitions are expressed or how modern the alchemy is made to look” (30).

Some other gems from that essay, which you should certainly read for yourself:

“Culture is public because meaning is.” (12)

“Understanding a people’s culture exposes their normalness without reducing their particularity.” (14)

“The aim here is to draw large conclusions from small, but very densely textured facts; to support broad assertions about the role of culture in the construction of collective life by engaging them exactly with complex specifics.” (28)

“Cultural analysis is intrinsically incomplete.” (29)

i.e., it’s turtles all the way down — or as he relates it himself:

There is an Indian story — at least I heard it as an Indian story — about an Englishman who, having been told that the world rested on a platform which rested on the back of an elephant which rested on the back of a turtle, asked (perhaps he was an ethnographer; it is the way they behave), what did the turtle rest on? Another turtle. And that turtle? “Ah, Sahib, after that it is turtles all the way down.”

ps — the natives over at Savage Minds recommend some resources for those who want to learn more, including a relatively recent “auto-obituary” by the man himself as well as the quite comprehensive HyperGeertz archive.


  • 1. quieto  |  November 1st, 2006 at 12:00 pm

    R.I.P. Cliff

    The man’s work is absolutely amazing. I got really fed up with anthropology about three years into my studies, and then I read ‘Available Light’ and, well, truth in advertising. His voice is eloquent, approaching self-help book levels of warmth, which is especially commendable given the ‘thickness’ of his description. Amazing what happens when you cut the hard-science frontin’.

    Weird fact – if you had my blogger password, you would see a ton of Geertz entries, saved and not published, from a few weeks ago. Friggin’ data collection (ironical much?) hasn’t been letting me do anything.

  • 2. wayneandwax  |  November 1st, 2006 at 12:23 pm

    Thanks for the comment, quieto. No better time than the present to publish those entries. Let’s get the word(s) out. Geertz’s perspectives should really be known more widely — not that he’s not rather widely read already. But sayin’.

  • 3. Jorge Vieira  |  November 2nd, 2006 at 11:49 am


    A central figure for all dealing with anthropology, culture studies, and, in a more broad perspective, social sciences.

  • 4. » G&hellip  |  November 7th, 2006 at 12:20 am

    […] As an example of how the work of Clifford Geertz might continue to inform our understanding of (the significance of) culture, consider the following passage from William Sewell’s Logics of History (Chicago 2005), itself a compelling interpretation of a series of texts. Bringing the methods and insights of the social sciences and the ‘histories’ to bear on each other, Sewell’s book is a persuasive exercise in reconfiguring social theory. […]

  • 5. mudd up! » Blog Arc&hellip  |  November 19th, 2006 at 5:37 pm

    […] As Ryle points out, the thinker has not done two things, written her thoughts down and winked, while the tweaker has done only one, contracted a criminal defense lawyer. Writing your thoughts down on purpose when there exists a public code in which so doing counts as a conspiratorial signal is thinking. Contracting a criminal defense lawyer on purpose when there exists an unspoken code in which so doing counts as an admittance of guilt is tweaking. That’s all there is to it: a speck of accountability, a fleck of culture and — voila — a sunset. Explore posts in the same categories: maplessness […]


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