{"id":405,"date":"2008-07-01T21:01:26","date_gmt":"2008-07-02T02:01:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=405"},"modified":"2015-01-07T14:07:09","modified_gmt":"2015-01-07T18:07:09","slug":"back-off-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=405","title":{"rendered":"Back Off, Man"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/billmurrayscience.ytmnd.com\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i145.photobucket.com\/albums\/r220\/altoidyoda\/Ghostbusters%20quotes\/gb01.jpg\"><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\nwrt that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomdispatch.com\/post\/174949\/mike_davis_welcome_to_the_next_epoch\">mike davis piece<\/a> i&#038;i <a href=\"http:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=403\">linkthink&#8217;d<\/a> yesterday, my fren ben, who knows a thing or two about climate science, offers a (slightly) more upbeat, measured take &#8212;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>interesting.  i admit that i&#8217;m surprised to hear that the London<br \/>\nSociety is ready to put the golden spike on the anthropocene.  seems<br \/>\nto me that geological ages are defined by prevailing conditions, not<br \/>\noncoming trends, and the present-day impacts of climate change don&#8217;t<br \/>\nseem big enough to merit the distinction . . . it&#8217;ll take a century or<br \/>\nmore of steadily worsening conditions to get a definitive signal in<br \/>\nthe global stratigraphic record.  that&#8217;s not to say that the<br \/>\nanthropocene isn&#8217;t a useful concept; it&#8217;s just odd that the London<br \/>\nSociety wants to tie it to the geological record.<\/p>\n<p>i mean, how do you drive a golden spike into unconsolidated sediment, anyway?<\/p>\n<p>engaging article, tho.  it&#8217;s important to hear the criticism that the<br \/>\nIPCC is too conservative in its estimates.  a handful of scientists<br \/>\nhave started arguing the same point, but only a handful &#8212; most of us<br \/>\nwaste our time responding to skeptics of the IPCC rather than pointing<br \/>\nout how badly the consensus report understates the potential for<br \/>\nextreme change.<\/p>\n<p>that being said, i think we need to be a little more optimistic than<br \/>\nthe article allows.  sure, there are problems with all of the current<br \/>\nefforts to mitigate climate change, but we haven&#8217;t been working on<br \/>\nthis for very long.  you can&#8217;t dismiss all biofuels just because of<br \/>\nthe recent rise in food prices (which has little to do with biofuels,<br \/>\nanyway), you can&#8217;t give up on carbon capture because the first pilot<br \/>\nplant failed, and you can&#8217;t use the present-day costs of (boutique)<br \/>\ngreen construction to estimate the expense of future (mass market)<br \/>\ngreen construction.<\/p>\n<p>so i guess that the article is useful as a wake-up call, but i&#8217;d<br \/>\nrather use the wake-up as a motivation to pursue all avenues of<br \/>\nmitigation, including the diplomatic and market-based efforts that the<br \/>\nauthor prefers to mock.  it seems that he&#8217;s more interested in seeing<br \/>\nhumanity get the ass-kicking that it deserves than in trying to<br \/>\nminimize suffering . . . his prediction might be right, but i&#8217;d like<br \/>\nto think that we can do better.<\/p>\n<p>especially if the engineers can bail us out again.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>wrt that mike davis piece i&#038;i linkthink&#8217;d yesterday, my fren ben, who knows a thing or two about climate science, offers a (slightly) more upbeat, measured take &#8212; interesting. i admit that i&#8217;m surprised to hear that the London Society is ready to put the golden spike on the anthropocene. seems to me that geological [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[227,226],"class_list":["post-405","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-global","tag-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/405","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=405"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/405\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8495,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/405\/revisions\/8495"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=405"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=405"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=405"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}