{"id":1277,"date":"2009-01-28T11:36:51","date_gmt":"2009-01-28T16:36:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=1277"},"modified":"2015-01-07T14:03:31","modified_gmt":"2015-01-07T18:03:31","slug":"reggaeting-o-reggaetang","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=1277","title":{"rendered":"Reggaeting o Reggaetang"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Speaking of <a href=\"http:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=1332\">the difference between hip-hop and reggaeton<\/a>, there&#8217;s been a heated discussion over <a href=\"http:\/\/reggaetonica.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/sunez-on-reggaeton.html \">at Raquel&#8217;s reggaetonica<\/a>, redrawing yet again the lines in the sand between the two genres and rehashing lots of tropes about Puerto Rico, blackness, hip-hop, and so on.<\/p>\n<p>The debate was initiated by <a href=\"http:\/\/lavoerevolt.blogspot.com\/2008\/09\/real-music-time-to-disassociate-and.html\">a polemic<\/a> published last fall by a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Nation_of_Gods_and_Earths\">god<\/a> named Sunez, editor of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/lavoerevolt\">Lavoe Revolt<\/a>. I find Sunez&#8217;s tone a little too pedantic for my tastes (and &#8220;musicological&#8221; his analysis is NOT; don&#8217;t get me started on his description of how hip-hop emerges from reggae), but that doesn&#8217;t mean he doesn&#8217;t raise good questions, as evidenced by the lively argument that ensues.<\/p>\n<p>As for his wider points, I can see some merit in them, especially the critique of postcolonial &#8220;mental slavery&#8221; via the embrace of conspicuous consumption and degrading images of self\/women, etc. But, really, that kind of criticism is not so different from the sort of stuff Stanley Crouch or <a href=\"http:\/\/ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com\/archives\/2009\/01\/juan_williams_is_a_gangsta_rapper.php\">Juan Williams<\/a> say about hip-hop all the time. Much as I&#8217;m sympathetic to some of that, I guess my own pleasures listening to reggaeton and commercial hip-hop derive from a couple things: 1) the way that dance music, music that engages the body, serves as a kind of apolitical &#8220;politics&#8221; (an embrace of the sensual self that militates against the repression of our bodies in wider society); 2) the framing of conspicuous consumption as a militant stance re: enjoying the &#8220;good life&#8221; (flaunting symbols of wealth that have been denied to people of color for so long). In a sense, then, esp re: the latter point, I guess my position is kind of pragmatic \/ strategic. And overall, I suppose I do believe that the way such popular genres create communities holds some promise toward actual political mobilization, even if we haven&#8217;t seen much like that yet (tho the <a href=\"http:\/\/ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com\/archives\/2009\/01\/more_evidence_that_barack_obama_is_killing_hiphop.php\">support for Obama<\/a> among prominent rappers perhaps gestures that way).<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t feel the need to go through and debunk Sunez&#8217;s slandering of reggaeton point for point, especially since an anonymous commenter does a <a href=\"http:\/\/reggaetonica.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/sunez-on-reggaeton.html?showComment=1232442180000#c3770733786676917770\">fine<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/reggaetonica.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/sunez-on-reggaeton.html?showComment=1232476140000#c286528415382514288\">and<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/reggaetonica.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/sunez-on-reggaeton.html?showComment=1232518320000#c2773546552543458873\">thorough<\/a> job of that. (Marisol is <a href=\"http:\/\/reggaetonica.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/sunez-on-reggaeton.html?showComment=1232638320000#c2821642504271659147\">right to point out<\/a> that the exchange becomes too much of a masculinist pissing contest and too &#8220;mired in issues of racial\/cultural authenticity,&#8221; though I think Anonymous was simply seeking, in some sense, to playfully meet his interlocutor on some shared discursive ground.) <\/p>\n<p>I have to chime in, though, along with Raquel &#038; Anonymous, in defense of Tego. I guess I can understand how a dyed-in-the-wool New York rap fan might level such charges as &#8212;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Clearly put, [Tego Calderon] is an average MC (If he grew up in Brooklyn, he\u2019d have no chance) who deliberately makes some sellout tracks to hustle his catalogue.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But that just doesn&#8217;t compute for me. And I can&#8217;t even claim to follow all the nuances of Tego&#8217;s deployment of Spanish, English, and old and new slanguage; I&#8217;m mostly reacting to flow when I listen to Tego. He&#8217;s an MC&#8217;s MC far as I&#8217;m concerned. I&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/?p=26\">weighed in on El Negro Calde<\/a> here before, so I&#8217;ll save you my own treatises. I found the following pro-Tego jab by Anonymous to be both funny and spot-on &#8212;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I mean, if you can&#8217;t respect Tego&#8217;s technique maybe your Boricua Spanish needs a Windows Update, god.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For a little evidence, here&#8217;s some recent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/?zzwitzzotqt\">fuego from Tego<\/a>, clowning on some clowns, no dembow needed. Love the line in the first verse which inspires the title of this post. Reggaeting o reggaetang? Dude can flip it flippant, seen? A little levity goes a long way.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width:300px;\"><object width=\"300\" height=\"110\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/media.imeem.com\/m\/dnJKZfqoMl\/aus=false\/\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/media.imeem.com\/m\/dnJKZfqoMl\/aus=false\/\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"300\" height=\"110\" wmode=\"transparent\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imeem.com\/djspeedyjr\/music\/am755Ylj\/tego_calderon_ft_chyno_nyno_payaso_part_2mp3\/\">Payaso (Part 2).mp3 &#8211; Tego Calderon ft. Chyno Nyno<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Speaking of the difference between hip-hop and reggaeton, there&#8217;s been a heated discussion over at Raquel&#8217;s reggaetonica, redrawing yet again the lines in the sand between the two genres and rehashing lots of tropes about Puerto Rico, blackness, hip-hop, and so on. The debate was initiated by a polemic published last fall by a god [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[91,404,10,145,417,405],"class_list":["post-1277","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-blackness","tag-hip-hop","tag-latin","tag-newyork","tag-puertorico","tag-reggaeton"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1277","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1277"}],"version-history":[{"count":17,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1277\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1356,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1277\/revisions\/1356"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1277"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1277"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wayneandwax.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1277"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}