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		<title>By: wayneandwax</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2240</link>
		<dc:creator>wayneandwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly my term! And I&#039;ll admit to a chip on my shoulder when it comes to corporate $, &quot;venture&quot; capital, and the relationship to art collection (or the relationship to anything for that matter). But, heck, that&#039;s just anti-capitalism speaking through me. I don&#039;t mean &quot;looms large&quot; in terms of details (i.e., having his name on lots of things there), but in terms of the structure of the exhibit&#039;s (re)presentation, which I don&#039;t think is unfairly characterized by anth/cllctr/sbjct. It may not have been the conscious organizing principle, but there&#039;s no wishing it away from those spartan little cards sitting next to the sculptures. I mean, please tell me you can appreciate the irony -- as I&#039;m sure does Mr.Motorola &#174; -- of a telephone company executive collecting sculptures of cellphones in the greatest growing market for cellphones, and having &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; name be the one most prominently connected to the piece. Even so, as I describe, it really wasn&#039;t a prefab agenda. Rather, the critique occurred to me as I made my way through the exhibit and found the context/frame lacking. 

For instance, to speak more literally of &quot;frames,&quot; before I even noticed the conspicuous absence of artist names w/ objects (or their inconspicuous presence, as you contend), I was dismayed that it was quite unclear -- as in the case of the &quot;TV&quot; photo -- who did the various levels of framing: who took the picture, who had it taken, who put it into the painted wooden frame in which it appears, who &quot;collected&quot; it and when, why?? I don&#039;t think these questions are asking too much, but perhaps they are. I just found a lot of context lacking, and as such, that the message of the exhibition seemed inherently compromised. If this exhibition is about public outreach and education of a sort, I think it could go further in making people reconsider their conceptual frames. That remains my critique, based on my experience, overlooked details notwithstanding. That may sound like a harsh verdict. But it&#039;s only mine. (Though I should say that the person accompanying me seemed to agree, so I guess that&#039;s 4 attentive eyes that failed to SEE the details.) And it&#039;s only here on this little blog. I&#039;m sure your write-ups in the papers and such are far less critical.

At any rate, I&#039;ll get in touch (though I&#039;m not sure how to send an email offline), and I apologize for the mislabeling (!), though perhaps that explains some differences in conceptual framing (&amp;it certainly recontextualizes the use of &quot;anthropologists&quot; in the description) -- will correct above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly my term! And I&#8217;ll admit to a chip on my shoulder when it comes to corporate $, &#8220;venture&#8221; capital, and the relationship to art collection (or the relationship to anything for that matter). But, heck, that&#8217;s just anti-capitalism speaking through me. I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;looms large&#8221; in terms of details (i.e., having his name on lots of things there), but in terms of the structure of the exhibit&#8217;s (re)presentation, which I don&#8217;t think is unfairly characterized by anth/cllctr/sbjct. It may not have been the conscious organizing principle, but there&#8217;s no wishing it away from those spartan little cards sitting next to the sculptures. I mean, please tell me you can appreciate the irony &#8212; as I&#8217;m sure does Mr.Motorola &reg; &#8212; of a telephone company executive collecting sculptures of cellphones in the greatest growing market for cellphones, and having <i>his</i> name be the one most prominently connected to the piece. Even so, as I describe, it really wasn&#8217;t a prefab agenda. Rather, the critique occurred to me as I made my way through the exhibit and found the context/frame lacking. </p>
<p>For instance, to speak more literally of &#8220;frames,&#8221; before I even noticed the conspicuous absence of artist names w/ objects (or their inconspicuous presence, as you contend), I was dismayed that it was quite unclear &#8212; as in the case of the &#8220;TV&#8221; photo &#8212; who did the various levels of framing: who took the picture, who had it taken, who put it into the painted wooden frame in which it appears, who &#8220;collected&#8221; it and when, why?? I don&#8217;t think these questions are asking too much, but perhaps they are. I just found a lot of context lacking, and as such, that the message of the exhibition seemed inherently compromised. If this exhibition is about public outreach and education of a sort, I think it could go further in making people reconsider their conceptual frames. That remains my critique, based on my experience, overlooked details notwithstanding. That may sound like a harsh verdict. But it&#8217;s only mine. (Though I should say that the person accompanying me seemed to agree, so I guess that&#8217;s 4 attentive eyes that failed to SEE the details.) And it&#8217;s only here on this little blog. I&#8217;m sure your write-ups in the papers and such are far less critical.</p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;ll get in touch (though I&#8217;m not sure how to send an email offline), and I apologize for the mislabeling (!), though perhaps that explains some differences in conceptual framing (&#038;it certainly recontextualizes the use of &#8220;anthropologists&#8221; in the description) &#8212; will correct above.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Stokes</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne, please clarify how &quot;Mr. Motorola&quot; (your term) looms large.  I would suggest you have a chip on your shoulder and are misinterpreting the loan of an object to fit a prefabricated agenda, - the power dynamics lens through which you view this exhibit and others without actually SEEING the details.  The old school model of anthr/collector/subject was not the organizing principle for Africa.Dot.Com.  Send me an e-mail off-line - let&#039;s meet to discuss. (One other quibble and point of misinformation - I am an art historian, not an athropologist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, please clarify how &#8220;Mr. Motorola&#8221; (your term) looms large.  I would suggest you have a chip on your shoulder and are misinterpreting the loan of an object to fit a prefabricated agenda, &#8211; the power dynamics lens through which you view this exhibit and others without actually SEEING the details.  The old school model of anthr/collector/subject was not the organizing principle for Africa.Dot.Com.  Send me an e-mail off-line &#8211; let&#8217;s meet to discuss. (One other quibble and point of misinformation &#8211; I am an art historian, not an athropologist.</p>
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		<title>By: wayneandwax</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator>wayneandwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying a lot of this, Bec. You cut thru clearly as usual.

As for &quot;problematic&quot; as a noun, you&#039;re right, that&#039;s as bad as &quot;trouble&quot; as a verb. (Not &quot;troubling,&quot; which is at least part of the non-academic vernacular.) I suppose I could have said &quot;problem,&quot; but I somehow wanted to signify that it&#039;s a complex of problems? I dunno. I try to strive for precision as much as poetry, and often I hit neither!

&amp;w/r/t anonymizing some of my (email-based) sources/interlocutors here on the blog, I usually do so in order to respect people&#039;s wishes to keep themselves, or certain semi-private correspondence, ungooglable, if you will. It is a form of protection as well as explicit acknowledgment. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s nearly the same thing as the kind of anonymity applied in the conventional presentation of African or &quot;primitive&quot; art. I suspect that most artists, if they consider/describe themselves as such and know that their pieces are being presented in an art gallery, would choose &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to be anonymous. 

In general, I would prefer that people allow me to cite them by name (or comment as themselves themselves), but I know by experience that a good many people with something interesting to say prefer &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to say it on the internet (or have it associated directly with them). Too bad, for any number of reasons. (Then again, there are the advantages/possibilities of avatars, jokenames, etc., which I wouldn&#039;t want to rule out.)

Hoping the conversation can continue. Onwards and sideways --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying a lot of this, Bec. You cut thru clearly as usual.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;problematic&#8221; as a noun, you&#8217;re right, that&#8217;s as bad as &#8220;trouble&#8221; as a verb. (Not &#8220;troubling,&#8221; which is at least part of the non-academic vernacular.) I suppose I could have said &#8220;problem,&#8221; but I somehow wanted to signify that it&#8217;s a complex of problems? I dunno. I try to strive for precision as much as poetry, and often I hit neither!</p>
<p>&#038;w/r/t anonymizing some of my (email-based) sources/interlocutors here on the blog, I usually do so in order to respect people&#8217;s wishes to keep themselves, or certain semi-private correspondence, ungooglable, if you will. It is a form of protection as well as explicit acknowledgment. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s nearly the same thing as the kind of anonymity applied in the conventional presentation of African or &#8220;primitive&#8221; art. I suspect that most artists, if they consider/describe themselves as such and know that their pieces are being presented in an art gallery, would choose <i>not</i> to be anonymous. </p>
<p>In general, I would prefer that people allow me to cite them by name (or comment as themselves themselves), but I know by experience that a good many people with something interesting to say prefer <i>not</i> to say it on the internet (or have it associated directly with them). Too bad, for any number of reasons. (Then again, there are the advantages/possibilities of avatars, jokenames, etc., which I wouldn&#8217;t want to rule out.)</p>
<p>Hoping the conversation can continue. Onwards and sideways &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: becca</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastically interesting and difficult issue.  Thanks to sk for her thoughtful and necessary reply and to you for posting it.  It is interesting to me that sk herself remains in initials only.  Seemingly, in this blogspace there is a tendency to treat anonymizing as a protection rather than an appropriation.  

It appears that there would be no unproblematic way to do an exhibit like this one because we neither want to reify nor ignore the differences in perception and practice between the artists and the audience.  Your critque centers on the idea that western art audiences appreciate african art only when it is given a particular gloss.  You suggest a partial solution that seems to boil down to presenting the artists more like we would present western artists.  sk comes back with the observation that treating these artists like western artists perhaps imposes an equally distorting gloss.  The history of presentation of african art to western audiences is the 800 pound gorilla in the room that, you argue, must explicitly acknowleged to the viewers of the exhibit.  This responsibility, I think you rightly claim, rests on the shoulders of the presenter of the exhibit.  I wonder what you would recommend to a curator.  How should the implicit and unavoidable gloss be presented to a non-anthropologist audience?  And, in the end, are we really talking about making sure that the artists are treated fairly in an economic sense regardless of representation?  That is, being appropriately compensated in both $ and social capital? 

And, um, for those non-anthropologists among us, is there import to the noun-use of the adjective &quot;problematic&quot; as opposed to the more straightforward noun-use of the noun &quot;trouble&quot;?  Isn&#039;t that even weirder than the past-participle use of &quot;troubling&quot;, which does seem to actually be grammatical, if metaphorical in the sense in which you use it?  I&#039;m a fan of new coinage--lexical stasis is, quite literally, an inhuman goal--but what does it mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastically interesting and difficult issue.  Thanks to sk for her thoughtful and necessary reply and to you for posting it.  It is interesting to me that sk herself remains in initials only.  Seemingly, in this blogspace there is a tendency to treat anonymizing as a protection rather than an appropriation.  </p>
<p>It appears that there would be no unproblematic way to do an exhibit like this one because we neither want to reify nor ignore the differences in perception and practice between the artists and the audience.  Your critque centers on the idea that western art audiences appreciate african art only when it is given a particular gloss.  You suggest a partial solution that seems to boil down to presenting the artists more like we would present western artists.  sk comes back with the observation that treating these artists like western artists perhaps imposes an equally distorting gloss.  The history of presentation of african art to western audiences is the 800 pound gorilla in the room that, you argue, must explicitly acknowleged to the viewers of the exhibit.  This responsibility, I think you rightly claim, rests on the shoulders of the presenter of the exhibit.  I wonder what you would recommend to a curator.  How should the implicit and unavoidable gloss be presented to a non-anthropologist audience?  And, in the end, are we really talking about making sure that the artists are treated fairly in an economic sense regardless of representation?  That is, being appropriately compensated in both $ and social capital? </p>
<p>And, um, for those non-anthropologists among us, is there import to the noun-use of the adjective &#8220;problematic&#8221; as opposed to the more straightforward noun-use of the noun &#8220;trouble&#8221;?  Isn&#8217;t that even weirder than the past-participle use of &#8220;troubling&#8221;, which does seem to actually be grammatical, if metaphorical in the sense in which you use it?  I&#8217;m a fan of new coinage&#8211;lexical stasis is, quite literally, an inhuman goal&#8211;but what does it mean?</p>
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		<title>By: wayneandwax</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>wayneandwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like quite an album, Channing. Should provide a corrective to all anonymous bugs on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sublimefrequencies.com/item.asp?Item_id=15&quot;&gt;Broken-Hearted Dragonflies&lt;/a&gt; comp. (How I wish I knew the names of those insect Carusos!) You&#039;re right, this &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; an appropriate place to mention it. 

And &lt;i&gt;you&#039;re&lt;/i&gt; right, Deborah. I totally missed those names. (And when I asked the people working the table at the front how I could find out who made a lot of the art on display, they didn&#039;t/couldn&#039;t point them out to me. But they did ask me if I wanted to buy a handsome Drums2Digital mousepad -- the proceeds from which go where exactly?) I appreciate that you make such gestures, if, I must say, somewhat inconspicuously (I mean, I was looking) -- and I was glad to see the video component -- but I think my critique still stands. Mr.Motorola looms large, as do you. The framing of most of the pieces, and of the entire exhibition, seems pretty old school despite the sheen of the new. 

I make this critique in good faith, just as, I&#039;m sure, you present your exhibition in good faith. The general problematic I describe here, as I note with my turn to &quot;world music&quot; at the end, continues to inform representations of Africa and the non-Western world more broadly. I didn&#039;t mean to offend or attack you, Deborah. I know that we all get rather invested in (and tied up with) our work and I&#039;m sure that a great deal of work went into Africa.Dot.Com.

Finally, I just want to say that, judging by the subtexts of both of your comments, I&#039;m really not out to fetishize the INDIVIDUAL here. I have no problem with communal art, with nameless art, with &quot;outsider&quot; art, with art that doesn&#039;t want to call itself art, or with non-art. I do have a problem, though, with status quo notions of self/other, West/rest, etc./et al. And ultimately, I think that, for all their productive qualities (challenging stereotypes and all that), the mediations of labels like Sublime Frequencies or of this exhibit tend to shore up rather than tear down the spurious social divisions that continue to structure our world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like quite an album, Channing. Should provide a corrective to all anonymous bugs on the <a href="http://www.sublimefrequencies.com/item.asp?Item_id=15">Broken-Hearted Dragonflies</a> comp. (How I wish I knew the names of those insect Carusos!) You&#8217;re right, this <i>is</i> an appropriate place to mention it. </p>
<p>And <i>you&#8217;re</i> right, Deborah. I totally missed those names. (And when I asked the people working the table at the front how I could find out who made a lot of the art on display, they didn&#8217;t/couldn&#8217;t point them out to me. But they did ask me if I wanted to buy a handsome Drums2Digital mousepad &#8212; the proceeds from which go where exactly?) I appreciate that you make such gestures, if, I must say, somewhat inconspicuously (I mean, I was looking) &#8212; and I was glad to see the video component &#8212; but I think my critique still stands. Mr.Motorola looms large, as do you. The framing of most of the pieces, and of the entire exhibition, seems pretty old school despite the sheen of the new. </p>
<p>I make this critique in good faith, just as, I&#8217;m sure, you present your exhibition in good faith. The general problematic I describe here, as I note with my turn to &#8220;world music&#8221; at the end, continues to inform representations of Africa and the non-Western world more broadly. I didn&#8217;t mean to offend or attack you, Deborah. I know that we all get rather invested in (and tied up with) our work and I&#8217;m sure that a great deal of work went into Africa.Dot.Com.</p>
<p>Finally, I just want to say that, judging by the subtexts of both of your comments, I&#8217;m really not out to fetishize the INDIVIDUAL here. I have no problem with communal art, with nameless art, with &#8220;outsider&#8221; art, with art that doesn&#8217;t want to call itself art, or with non-art. I do have a problem, though, with status quo notions of self/other, West/rest, etc./et al. And ultimately, I think that, for all their productive qualities (challenging stereotypes and all that), the mediations of labels like Sublime Frequencies or of this exhibit tend to shore up rather than tear down the spurious social divisions that continue to structure our world.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Stokes</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2227</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see from your critique of the exhibition, Africa.Dot.Com that you clearly missed the INDIVIDUAL names of the Africans who are a part of this show:  James Muriuki, Alassane Soumare, Jaby Jiara, Zodwa Mjwora, Mboniseni Khanyile, Elliot Mkhize, Gerard Atomkouri, Rim a Rim Idrisson, Okala Ebode, Paolo Bombe.   Their INDIVIDUAL names are found on the special thanks to list as you enter The Glass Curtain Gallery, on photo captions, and on object labels. You write,

&quot;In this day&amp;age, it is hard to believe that thereâ€™s no way to bring actual individual African voices â€” voices with names and faces and dreams and bank accounts â€” into an art gallery here in Chicago&quot;

Well, the INDIVIDUAL voices, names, AND faces of Gerard Atomkouri, Rim a Rim Idrisson, and Okala Ebode are projected on the 8&#039; x 8&#039; installation of &#039;Beepez-le&#039;, as they discuss in their own voices, the concept of culturally specific communication through coded systems.  In addition, a transcription of the entire text is made available to take by anyone viewing the exhibition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see from your critique of the exhibition, Africa.Dot.Com that you clearly missed the INDIVIDUAL names of the Africans who are a part of this show:  James Muriuki, Alassane Soumare, Jaby Jiara, Zodwa Mjwora, Mboniseni Khanyile, Elliot Mkhize, Gerard Atomkouri, Rim a Rim Idrisson, Okala Ebode, Paolo Bombe.   Their INDIVIDUAL names are found on the special thanks to list as you enter The Glass Curtain Gallery, on photo captions, and on object labels. You write,</p>
<p>&#8220;In this day&amp;age, it is hard to believe that thereâ€™s no way to bring actual individual African voices â€” voices with names and faces and dreams and bank accounts â€” into an art gallery here in Chicago&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the INDIVIDUAL voices, names, AND faces of Gerard Atomkouri, Rim a Rim Idrisson, and Okala Ebode are projected on the 8&#8242; x 8&#8242; installation of &#8216;Beepez-le&#8217;, as they discuss in their own voices, the concept of culturally specific communication through coded systems.  In addition, a transcription of the entire text is made available to take by anyone viewing the exhibition.</p>
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		<title>By: Channing Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator>Channing Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems an appropriate place to drop mention of a project I&#039;m involved in. It&#039;s an album called &lt;i&gt;I Love Machine&lt;/i&gt;, a series of remixes of birdsong, except the singing bird in question isn&#039;t nameless, it&#039;s a Bicheno owlfinch named &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beaubrun.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cagesan&lt;/a&gt;, who lives with his owner Toog in Paris. Cagesan says: 
&quot; I am very happy to be the first bird to
be considered as a true artist. I LOVE MACHINE is
the
first album which is not an anonymous bird singing
recording. This is why this decoration is very
important to me: it means every bird can become a
rock&#039;n roll star. I want to say that to all my
brothers, birds and various living animals: time has
come to reach the public with a name!  To humans,
we&#039;re regarded as  
&#039;outsider musicians&#039;, because they don&#039;t speak our
language; but truly,  
it&#039;s human music that is &#039;outsider language&#039;, as it
imitates the fusion  
of music and language that we songbirds perfected
millions of years  
ago. Time has come
to consider ourselves as creators of our singing and
sounds, like human song writers do. Time has come to
reach the stars and release albums, make shows and
give interviews like the other artists do. We&#039;re not
less, we&#039;re not more, we are like you are. And now,
let&#039;s go party!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems an appropriate place to drop mention of a project I&#8217;m involved in. It&#8217;s an album called <i>I Love Machine</i>, a series of remixes of birdsong, except the singing bird in question isn&#8217;t nameless, it&#8217;s a Bicheno owlfinch named <a href="http://www.beaubrun.net" rel="nofollow">Cagesan</a>, who lives with his owner Toog in Paris. Cagesan says:<br />
&#8221; I am very happy to be the first bird to<br />
be considered as a true artist. I LOVE MACHINE is<br />
the<br />
first album which is not an anonymous bird singing<br />
recording. This is why this decoration is very<br />
important to me: it means every bird can become a<br />
rock&#8217;n roll star. I want to say that to all my<br />
brothers, birds and various living animals: time has<br />
come to reach the public with a name!  To humans,<br />
we&#8217;re regarded as<br />
&#8216;outsider musicians&#8217;, because they don&#8217;t speak our<br />
language; but truly,<br />
it&#8217;s human music that is &#8216;outsider language&#8217;, as it<br />
imitates the fusion<br />
of music and language that we songbirds perfected<br />
millions of years<br />
ago. Time has come<br />
to consider ourselves as creators of our singing and<br />
sounds, like human song writers do. Time has come to<br />
reach the stars and release albums, make shows and<br />
give interviews like the other artists do. We&#8217;re not<br />
less, we&#8217;re not more, we are like you are. And now,<br />
let&#8217;s go party!</p>
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		<title>By: wayneandwax.com &#187; Appy Earthday, Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayneandwax.com &#187; Appy Earthday, Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At any rate, given this auspicious day and the resonance of one of my favorites from Bob&#8217;s oeuvre with my New Wine, Old Bottles post of a couple days ago, I couldn&#8217;t resist sharing this powerful chantdown of, as he calls it, &#8220;Babylon System&#8221; &#8211; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At any rate, given this auspicious day and the resonance of one of my favorites from Bob&#8217;s oeuvre with my New Wine, Old Bottles post of a couple days ago, I couldn&#8217;t resist sharing this powerful chantdown of, as he calls it, &#8220;Babylon System&#8221; &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you might suspect given our recent email exchange, Wayne, I&#039;ve found this post very interesting and absolutely on-point.

-e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you might suspect given our recent email exchange, Wayne, I&#8217;ve found this post very interesting and absolutely on-point.</p>
<p>-e</p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
		<link>http://wayneandwax.com/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-2196</link>
		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to see mention of Sublime Frequencies in the discussion. After having discovering hours of beautiful music through the label, I began to realize how dissatisfied I was with the presentation of the compilations as place rather than individuals, and the artist being the western explorer of the &quot;other&quot; rather than those actually creating the music. I realize none of this is a new perspective to you (although I worry that it has never been mentioned in any review of the albums i have seen in seemingly leftist &quot;independent&quot; media), but I wonder if you know anything about the business end of the label? I would imagine payment is never an aspect of making the radio comps, but it seems especially horrifying imagining people like the Taureg having DVDs of themselves being released without continued payment. 

Also, thank you for such a constantly interesting blog. I am soon finishing a BA in sociology with hopes of graduate school and academic career, and your blog has been constantly useful in indulging both musically obsessive and intellectually excited sides of my personality. I feel more certain now about being able to fuse personal and academic interests as a result. Thank You!
Zack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to see mention of Sublime Frequencies in the discussion. After having discovering hours of beautiful music through the label, I began to realize how dissatisfied I was with the presentation of the compilations as place rather than individuals, and the artist being the western explorer of the &#8220;other&#8221; rather than those actually creating the music. I realize none of this is a new perspective to you (although I worry that it has never been mentioned in any review of the albums i have seen in seemingly leftist &#8220;independent&#8221; media), but I wonder if you know anything about the business end of the label? I would imagine payment is never an aspect of making the radio comps, but it seems especially horrifying imagining people like the Taureg having DVDs of themselves being released without continued payment. </p>
<p>Also, thank you for such a constantly interesting blog. I am soon finishing a BA in sociology with hopes of graduate school and academic career, and your blog has been constantly useful in indulging both musically obsessive and intellectually excited sides of my personality. I feel more certain now about being able to fuse personal and academic interests as a result. Thank You!<br />
Zack</p>
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